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Koni/Grond Control Question
« on: January 08, 2012, 02:31:03 pm »
Currently running Function & Form type 1 coilovers . Problem is spring rates are too soft on this chassis for my liking and it doesnt go low enough for me.  So my question is:

Is anyone on this forum running these on their ef? I know koni/gc is a great combo but i've never really seen pictures of them of an ef.  I'm wondering how low they will go since these chassis are pretty hard to get low.


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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2012, 06:01:34 pm »
i just bought a set brand new for my sedan i wanted a full coilover set up but the guy backed out so i got this set up and i like the way it rides but i dont think you can go slammed to the ground with it but i know i can tuck 3 inches of tires with the set up right now im where i cant see the top of the tire and i have half a sleeve i can go down but i dont want to blow the struts and my set up is for a eg hatch
It's just a Honda it isn't that hard to figure out

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 10:24:27 pm »
Oh no i definatel y dont wanna be on the ground lol, right about where you're sitting at is where I want my height at. At the moment I have about a finger gap all around because the front can't go any lower. So, I should be selling my current set up Tuesday and ordering them new from weksos. I just would like some input on the ride height for an ef. Thanks a lot for the input man.

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 10:29:59 pm »
i ride with them on 1 because thats the firmest ride and if i put it on 4 it rides like a caddy when going down the road its like floating on a cloud but i like a stiff riding car so i leave it on 1
It's just a Honda it isn't that hard to figure out

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2012, 10:48:35 pm »
Would you be able to get pics tomorrow or whenever theres sunlight? I'd really appreciat e it.

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 03:27:58 am »
get the ground control/ konis.... .
then there is another site where you can get eibach springs in almost any size and spring rate...
5in springs.. . by 2.5in diameter. .. plus extended top hats.. you can sit your shit on the ground.

follow this link to A WIDE SELECTION OF EIBACH SPRINGS! if you are running the koni/gc i suggest 2.5 inch spring diameter
http://performanceshock.com/index/manufacturers_id/17

spring rates can go from 150lbs to 3000....

maybe like 50$ to 80$ a spring.

my setup = koni yellow / gc combo... extended top hats... 6in. spring 2.5 diameter. 850lb front 750lb rear.
I need some stiffness to keep my car from hitting the ground, from being so low.

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« Last Edit: January 11, 2012, 03:42:17 am by slowstefan »
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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2012, 10:21:15 pm »
Haha I was talking to you on Tennspeed about suspensio n. I never looked into custom rates and spring sizes before so that was a lot of help. I was planning on just getting the off the shelf models, do you know the size of those springs?

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 08:12:38 pm »
You can get pretty low with yellow koni sports and ground control coilovers, low enough in my opinion.  If you want to go lower, the yellow koni race shocks (sps33's) have a shortened shock body which will drop your front end another 1"-1 1/2", but beware of wheel/tire clearence .  I had some of the race shocks but didn't like that my car was too low to pull out of my driveway without scrapping my pipe so I switched the front shocks out for koni sports.  I still have the race shocks in the rear which aren't shortened .

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2012, 01:51:56 pm »
how much was the gc\koni setup? the price doesn't seem much different from a new full coilover setup
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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2012, 05:23:37 pm »
how much was the gc\koni setup? the price doesn't seem much different from a new full coilover setup

Because it isn't. Look to pay $700up to koni/gc setup
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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2012, 08:28:16 pm »
Because it isn't. Look to pay $700up to koni/gc setup

Like dare said $700 is the starting price, but it can go up to $1400-$1500 if u get top hats, custom spring rates, custom valving, etc... But u can't beat the simplicit y, quality, and effective ness of this setup...

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2012, 08:45:57 pm »
Like dare said $700 is the starting price, but it can go up to $1400-$1500 if u get top hats, custom spring rates, custom valving, etc... But u can't beat the simplicit y, quality, and effective ness of this setup...

And the lifetime warranty.
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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #12 on: June 05, 2012, 12:11:46 am »

This is on the SPSS3 Koni Sports (revalved to handle higher spring rates and shortened). Stock top mounts. Fender clearance was the limitatio n here (obviously), but there was no need to go much lower than that...it handles great.


Yeah, it's an EG, but that's on off-the-shelf Koni Sports... no revalve and stock length, but with GC extended top hats. I was pretty sure I was about as low as I would possibly want to go at that point - in fact, I was probably going to raise it a little bit over the winter when I went through the front end, but then it was stolen.  :-\

So, yes, you can go pretty low with Konis and GCs, but you don't want to bottom them out (can damage the shim stack). You're not going to find the best handling there anyway. OTOH, if you do bottom them out, Koni Sports are one of the few shocks you can send in and have repaired/freshened/revalved (for different spring rates if desired) and even converted to double adjustabl es (at which point you may as well consider a set of the 3011's).
« Last Edit: June 05, 2012, 12:15:41 am by JBrettHowell »

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #13 on: June 05, 2012, 12:25:38 am »

This was with the spring removed - the upper control arm bottomed out on the top of the wheel well.


In the rear the shoulder would just start to rub until I got a set of Real rims with 5" of backspaci ng and then had custom spacers made to get the inner bead to just clear the control arm...the n the limitatio n became the seam at the top of the wheel wheel (this was with 225/45-13's on 13x9 rims).



I just like these pics.

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Re: Koni/Grond Control Question
« Reply #14 on: June 05, 2012, 01:35:19 pm »
And the lifetime warranty.

WOW, didn't think there was anything suspensio n wise that one could by that had a lifetime warrany, ya just SOLD me on that aspect alone...i m just a basic daily driver but i wanna slam my isshh, anyone recommend a specific type of koni? nothing to extrme like time trial\circuits or anything. .just a daily driver
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